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In these next two videos, Jan Helfeld displays possibly the most significant amount of cognitive dissonance ever recorded. He seems to understand the coerciveness of the system and yet is still an advocate for it in his debate with Larken Rose. These videos are several years old, and perhaps if the debate were done today, Larken could have done a better job. Larken missed several key points where Helfeld was extremely vulnerable on. But it's also easy for me to second guess and I give Larken credit for how he did under pressure.
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